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- Date: Sun, 12 Jun 94 14:30:58 PDT
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- Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #655
- To: Info-Hams
-
-
- Info-Hams Digest Sun, 12 Jun 94 Volume 94 : Issue 655
-
- Today's Topics:
- "73's"
- ** QUESTION TO HTX-20
- Amateur Television
- ARLP023 Propagation de KT7H
- Barry Goldwater
- Beware of RADIOKIT kits (IMHO)
- E-Mail for Kenwood
- France & Switzerland
- HTX 202
- VHF Maritime Outrage!! (2 msgs)
-
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-
- We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text
- herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official
- policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there.
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date: 12 Jun 94 16:35:39 -0500
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!newsserver.jvnc.net!yale.edu!noc.near.net!news.tufts.edu!news.hnrc.tufts.edu!jerry@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: "73's"
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- By the way,
- in addition to the question of whether one uses s or 's to indicate the
- plural of a figure, and
- in addition to the issue that 73 is a plural to begin with,
- there is *another* issue (for me, anyway) that causes 73s (or 73's)
- to have the same grating effect on my ears as other forms of
- poor grammar: 73 was originally introduced
- as a shorthand. Adding an s (with or without the apostrophe)
- flies in the face of the economy that prompted its invention in the first
- place.
-
- Just my $0.02, but I'll take 73s (or 73's) wherever, whenever, and in whatever
- form I find them.
-
- Hey! I managed to use the plural even though it's a plural to begin with!
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 18:10:00 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!iat.holonet.net!michaelr!ray.wade@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: ** QUESTION TO HTX-20
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- On 06-08-94 IGNACY MISZTAL wrote to ALL...
-
- IM> My IC-24AT becomes too hot to touch after extended transmission at
- IM> high power. It seems that PA modules used in HF have dismal
- IM> efficiency. At 13.8 V, the HT draws 1.5 A. The input is 13.8 V * 1.5A
- IM>
- IM> = 20W, at output 5W, for 25% efficiency. The remaining 75% heat the
- IM> HT.
- IM>
- IM> I am wondering if there exist RF modules that have higher efficiency.
-
- Remember that part of that power runs the CPU and other stuff. Subtract
- the squelched receive draw for a better idea of efficiency. It may not
- look so bad then. My DJ-580 gets warm after extended use at 1/2 watt!
- Thats with the other band turned completely off.
-
- * OFFLINE 1.56 * If I throw a cat out the car window, is it kitty litter?
- ............................................................
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 13:59:41
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!udel!news2.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!indirect.com!s146.phxslip.indirect.com!lenwink@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Amateur Television
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Sunday, 6/12/94, 6:00pm EST, the Ham Radio & More show will feature
- Henry Ruh, KB9FO, publisher of Amateur Television Quarterly.
- Call 1-602-241-1510 to see if you have a local station carrying the show
- in your market. It's on the Talk America Network. On satellite, you can find
- Ham Radio & More on Spacenet 3, Transponder 9, 6.8 audio.
- 73,
- Len
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 23:42:03 EDT
- From: psinntp!arrl.org!usenet@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: ARLP023 Propagation de KT7H
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- SB PROP @ ARL $ARLP023
- ARLP023 Propagation de KT7H
-
- ZCZC AP37
- QST de W1AW
- Propagation Forecast Bulletin 23 ARLP023
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 14:03:17
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!udel!news2.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!indirect.com!s146.phxslip.indirect.com!lenwink@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Barry Goldwater
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Former Senator, former presidential candidate, and internationally
- well known ham, Barry Goldwater, K7UGA will be on the national
- syndicated talk show, Ham Radio & More, June 26th, 1994, at 6:00pm EST,
- on the Talk America Network, to discuss amateur radio, MARS, and the
- future & past of amateur radio. Don't miss this important show with one of the
- most famous hams in the world!
- Ham Radio & More is heard on 22 stations throughout the country and on
- satellite. Call 602-241-1510 to find out if it's on a station near you. Also,
- call the same number to find out how to get the show on in your area, if
- it isn't now. There's no charge for a station to air the show.
- 73,
- Len, KB7LPW
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 12 Jun 94 12:28:46 EST
- From: ccsua.ctstateu.edu!white@yale.arpa
- Subject: Beware of RADIOKIT kits (IMHO)
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I purchased 2 kits from RADIOKIT (New Hampshire) recently (the QRP-20
- by K1BQT and the 7MHz Optimized by W7EL).
- First, the 7MHz kit was missing SEVEN parts (5 caps, 1 pot, 1 resistor). After
- 2 attempts to get these components replaced over 2 weeks, I received
- ONLY the pot. No explanation as to where the rest of the parts are.
- Now for the UGLY one...... the QRP-20 kit is a mess.....missing parts,
- wrong-sized standoffs for critical transistor heat sink installation,
- directions furnished are for the QRP 15 (!) with several "mod sheets",
- undrilled PCB connections, PCB layout errors, gross assumptions in
- directions, changes in kit that were not forwarded to customers, etc.
- and etc. And gee, all this fun for $100. "Easy to build ....comes with
- detailed manual and parts diagram [for a different RIG]..... easy to
- wind coils with _full_pictorials_ [NOT] ...." etc. etc.
- This is reckless merchandising at best. I'm no rocket scientist,
- but this is NOT what it was portrayed to be.
-
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 12 Jun 1994 11:37:15 -0500
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!austin.lockheed.com!kestrel.austin.lockheed.com!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: E-Mail for Kenwood
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Does Kenwood have an E-Mail address? I understand they have a
- BBS, but it takes a LD call and takes forever.
-
- If you know of an E-Mail address, please reply.
-
- Dick, KD5VU
-
-
- =====================================================================
- Richard (Dick) Kriss E-Mail:kriss@austin.lockheed.com
- 904 Dartmoor Cove Packet Radio: SP KD5VU @ N5LJF.#AUS.TX.USA.NA
- Austin, Texas 78746 Phone: 512-386-4153 (day) or 327-9566 (evenings)
- AMPRnet: kd5vu@kd5vu.ampr.org
- My employer has nothing to do with this message! ... _._
- =====================================================================
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 14:24:39 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!newsserver.jvnc.net!yale.edu!news.yale.edu!revco@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: France & Switzerland
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Last time i was in france, you'd actually need to apply for a french
- amateur radio license to be able to operate there. Their bureaucracy
- is absoulutely overwhelming. I've also found European government officials
- to be incredibly inflexible and unforgiving. You're worried about confiscation,
- I'd be worried about ending up in the slammer--e.g., albeit, Franco was
- in power at the time, but when a Spanish bank-teller accidently
- converted my travelers checks from Fr. Francs to Pesos at the dollar
- rate instead of the Franc rate, I found myself being picked up by
- 3 plain clothes policemen, two of who were toting submachine guns, in the
- next town. It is a different world over their, even in "civilized" Paris.
- Take chances at your own risk, they don't invoke canings, and the
- guillotine is also not used any more.
-
- --
- James H. Revkin, KA1QJ
- revco@revco.med.yale.edu
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 02:32:13 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!caen!malgudi.oar.net!witch!bjohns!bret@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: HTX 202
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I am looking for opions on the Radio Shack HTX 202 HT.
-
-
- Thanks..
-
-
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- Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 00:47:23 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!caen!malgudi.oar.net!witch!doghouse!jsalemi@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: VHF Maritime Outrage!!
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
-
- In article <n1gakCr7o8y.F0q@netcom.com>, Scott Statton (n1gak@netcom.com) writes:
- >How many licensed hams are there in the US now? 200,000 maybe? At $7
- >per ham per year, we're paying merely $1,400,000 p.a. rent on a LOT of
- >real estate...
-
- A bit over 600,000 according to the latest figures.
-
-
- >I'm vaguely upset that for administrative reasons they chose to charge
- >the ten years in advance. I can imagine a young ham having some
- >difficulty scraping up that money, but if you are like me, or most of
- >my ham buddies, kicking in the $70 for a new ham's license would make
- >a great "welcome to ham radio" gift. Go without a new doodad for a
- >few more weeks.
-
- But the charge is ONLY if you want a "vanity call." There's still no
- charge for the regular ham license and a call assigned from the
- regular pool. So NOBODY has to come up with $70 for a ham license.
-
- 73...joe
-
-
-
- ----------
- Joe Salemi, KR4CZ Internet: jsalemi@doghouse.win.net
- Compuserve: 72631,23 FidoNet: 1:109/136 MCI Mail: 433-3961
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 13:16:40 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: VHF Maritime Outrage!!
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <Cr9IoE.EAE@news.Hawaii.Edu> jherman@uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Jeffrey Herman) writes:
- >
- >A new VHF marine radio, with all channels, can be bought for as little as
- >$135 (through West Marine Supply). The license is worth almost as much as
- >the radio.
-
- No it's not, they just *charge* almost as much as the radio. It's worth
- whatever you're willing to pay.
-
- Gary
-
- --
- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
- Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary
- 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
- Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | |
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 15:21:43 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!n1gak@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <jchandleCr7MzH.4II@netcom.com>, <n1gakCr7o8y.F0q@netcom.com>, <1994Jun12.130045.566@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>
- Subject : Re: VHF Maritime Outrage!!
-
- In article <1994Jun12.130045.566@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>,
- Gary Coffman <gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> wrote:
- >In article <n1gakCr7o8y.F0q@netcom.com> n1gak@netcom.com (Scott Statton) writes:
- >
- >We're *not* a big sink to the FCC. They spend on average 8 manhours a
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- >week on the amateur service. It's the cheapest to administer service
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- >that they regulate. The spectrum we occupy doesn't belong to the FCC,
- >nor does it belong to the Federal Government. It is public spectrum
- >that belongs to the public, not the government. The government's role
- >is merely to regulate it's use as a resource held in common. In the
- >case of the amateur service, the active regulation is minimal.
- >
- Thanks for that lucid fact. I reverse my stance.
-
- Scott
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 14:35:34 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!rogjd@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <2tct8t$4jp@cat.cis.Brown.EDU>, <2td3t2$6gd@ccnet.ccnet.com>, <Cr9Kyq.EwG@news.Hawaii.Edu>
- Subject : Re: End of `440 in SoCal' thread (was: VHF Maritime Outrage!!)
-
- Jeffrey Herman (jherman@uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu) wrote:
- : In article <2td3t2$6gd@ccnet.ccnet.com> sohn@ccnet.com (Jim Sohn) writes:
- : >
- : >Don't know what your source is, but the US amateurs in ITU region 2 have
- : >access to 275 MHz in the 5.8 GHz band alone, and another 750 MHz in the 10
- : >and 24 GHz bands. These allocations are valuable - just ask any business
- : >or government agency that operates their own network on similar
- : >frequencies.
-
- : Jim's statement above should bring to an end the `440 in SoCal'
- : thread. Those are incredibly huge chunks of spectrum that need to be
- : put to use. When you consider the amount of unused spectrum we have
- : it really makes the 440 debate moot.
-
- : Can't readily *buy* a radio to play with up on those UHF freqs? Put your
- : amateur skills to use and *build* something for up there. [Roger: I'll
- : send you my soldering iron if you don't already have one.]
-
- : Jeff NH6IL
-
- That's very kind of you Jeff. My address is in the callbook. I won't
- hold my breath though. I realize that you are just running off at the
- mouth in your usual discourteous way.
-
- Say, Jeff, if you are such a technical stud and CW whiz, why don't you
- upgrade to Extra Class? It's nice at the bottom of the fone and CW
- bands. Nice bunch of ops there. Just had a wonderful rag chew on 14.158
- with a nice fellow in Alaska. He'd been a no-code tech right here in
- Southern California before upgrading to Extra and moving to Anchorage.
-
- Have fun with your soldering iron, old chap.
-
-
- --
- rogjd@netcom.com
- Glendale, CA
- AB6WR
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 14:43:47 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!crisp@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <brett_miller.294.001276FE@ccm.hf.intel.com>, <crispCr8Fvy.7L0@netcom.com>, <2te51k$kjs@triton.unm.edu>π
- Subject : Re: Icom R100
-
- In article <2te51k$kjs@triton.unm.edu> roberts@unm.edu (Robert Smathers) writes:
- >In article <crispCr8Fvy.7L0@netcom.com>,
- >Richard Crisp <crisp@netcom.com> wrote:
- >>
- >>Another quirk is the lack of a line level output (useful for taping or RTTY,
- >>not that RTTY matters since there is no BFO!).
- >
- >I have no problems using the speaker out jack and using a "line level to
- >recorder level" attenuator to record with my boom box.
- >
-
- Yep, that's basically what I do. I just wish they had provided
- a line out.
-
- >To avoid the problems of switching between speaker and recorder, I have
- >put the two together so I can record and listen on my speaker at the
- >same time (or record and turn off my speaker with a switch)
- >
-
- I find it annoying to use the speaker out line for recording
- because I do not like the volume control on the radio to affect the
- recorded level. Usually line out levels are fixed to allow recording
- to be unaffected by volume control changes.
-
- >Robert
- >roberts@triton.unm.edu
- >
-
-
- --
- Richard Crisp Cupertino, Ca. crisp@netcom.com
- (415) 903-3832 wk (408) 253 4541 fax
- For PGP Public Key, type finger crisp@netcom.com
- "It is a good thing that we do not get as much government as we pay for"
- -Will Rogers
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 12 Jun 1994 13:41:42 -0700
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news.cerf.net!ccnet.com!ccnet.com!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <2tct8t$4jp@cat.cis.Brown.EDU>, <2td3t2$6gd@ccnet.ccnet.com>, <Cr9Kyq.EwG@news.Hawaii.Edu>╡
- Subject : Re: End of `440 in SoCal' thread (was: VHF Maritime Outrage!!)
-
- Jeffrey Herman (jherman@uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu) wrote:
-
- : Can't readily *buy* a radio to play with up on those UHF freqs? Put your
- : amateur skills to use and *build* something for up there. [Roger: I'll
- : send you my soldering iron if you don't already have one.]
-
- Right on, Jeff! (oops - showing my age again!)
-
- Where better to further the radio art than on an unexplored band and/or
- mode? Equipment for 5.8, 10 and 24 GHz is readily available on the
- surplus market. Remember all those microwave towers that Sprint blew up a
- few years back? The stuff is out there.
-
- What can you practically do up at 24 GHz, you ask? ATV, packet
- backbone/LAN (full ethernet speed), "secure" repeater control, remote HF
- station control, etc., come to mind at the moment. You could even bring
- the entire 1.8-30 MHz "chunk" down to your house and use your HF receiver
- there to listen to it!
-
- Buying something off the shelf, plugging it in, and being satisfied with
- simply talking, is ordinary. I'd rather get the enjoyment out of doing
- something extra-ordinary, and get some satisfaction that I may be doing a
- little bit to keep the hobby vital.
-
- --
- Jim Sohn phun sohn@ccnet.com
- nophun pms/s=sohn/g=jv@mhs.attmail.com
- KF6NY wireless KF6NY@wd6cmu.#nocal.ca.usa.noam
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: (null)
- From: (null)
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 13:00:45 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <1994Jun10.155646.6575@news.yale.edu>, <jchandleCr7MzH.4II@netcom.com>, <n1gakCr7o8y.F0q@netcom.com>
- Reply-To : gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman)
- Subject : Re: VHF Maritime Outrage!!
-
- In article <n1gakCr7o8y.F0q@netcom.com> n1gak@netcom.com (Scott Statton) writes:
- >In article <jchandleCr7MzH.4II@netcom.com>, jchandle@netcom.com (James W Chandler III) writes:
- >> In article <1994Jun10.155646.6575@news.yale.edu> revco@YALE.EDU (Jim Revkin) writes:
- >> > [asks for opinions on VHF maritime license fee increase]
- >>
- >> This is only the latest attempt by the Administration to raise money for the
- >> federal coffers. The fees for other licenses have also risen. The fee
- >> for the commercial radio licences has risen from $35 to $105 also. Can
- >> charging for amateur radio licenses be far behind? I don't think so. I
- >> predict that with 5 years all amateur will be paying something to
- >> apply for/renew their license.
- >> Jim Chandler, N0VAH/AE
- >> jchandle@netcom.com
- >
- >This is probably an unpopular sentiment, but here goes:
- >AFAIK the US is the ONLY nation that charges $0.00 for a life-time
- >amateur license.
- >
- >If kicking in a pittance every year (and, face it, genetlpersons, $7
- >per annum is NOT a huge sum of money .. less than 2 cents per day;
- >heck, I lose that much behind the sofa) will warm the cockles/coffers
- >of our government, and maybe make them just a TEENY bit more
- >responsive to us, then it's a good thing.
-
- Ha! Fat chance. Remember that these fees go into the Federal general
- fund, just like any other *TAX*. And remember that the Federal Income
- Tax was a pittance when it was enacted too, as was the Social Security
- Tax. If the funds were actually to go directly to the FCC *in addition
- to their normal appropriation*, then we might see some improved services.
- But that isn't going to happen. Even if Congress were to earmark the
- funds for the FCC, unconstitutional, they'd just reduce the general
- fund appropriation by a like amount (and spend those funds elsewhere)
- while the FCC would be no better funded than it is now. This is just a
- *TAX*, nothing more.
-
- >Remember: The amateur service is a big sink to the FCC ... we provide
- >nothing of significant value any more, and we're sitting on hundreds
- >of megahertz of valuable bandwidth.
-
- We're *not* a big sink to the FCC. They spend on average 8 manhours a
- week on the amateur service. It's the cheapest to administer service
- that they regulate. The spectrum we occupy doesn't belong to the FCC,
- nor does it belong to the Federal Government. It is public spectrum
- that belongs to the public, not the government. The government's role
- is merely to regulate it's use as a resource held in common. In the
- case of the amateur service, the active regulation is minimal.
-
- >How many licensed hams are there in the US now? 200,000 maybe? At $7
- >per ham per year, we're paying merely $1,400,000 p.a. rent on a LOT of
- >real estate...
-
- More like 600,000 (and growing!). If we pass the 1,000,000 mark, we'll
- begin to be a political force to be reckoned with, but $7 million a
- year would still be chicken feed to a $3 trillion dollar Federal budget.
- The Feds spend that much every 48 minutes.
-
- >I'm vaguely upset that for administrative reasons they chose to charge
- >the ten years in advance. I can imagine a young ham having some
- >difficulty scraping up that money, but if you are like me, or most of
- >my ham buddies, kicking in the $70 for a new ham's license would make
- >a great "welcome to ham radio" gift. Go without a new doodad for a
- >few more weeks.
- >
- >A friend of mine and I scrounge the swap-fests and pick up all of the
- >IC-2ATs and 4ATs that we can find. When a young person we know gets a
- >license, but can't afford a radio, [s]he's given one on 'permanent
- >loan'. I suppose we've spent about $700 each doing this, but I
- >consider it just a part of my obligation to keeping ham-radio alive.
-
- That's admirable, and a much better use of your money than pouring
- it into the bottomless Federal coffers.
-
- Gary
- --
- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
- Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary
- 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
- Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | |
-
- ------------------------------
-
- End of Info-Hams Digest V94 #655
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